Added: December 03, 2021
Agenda Item 1: Call to Order and Roll Call
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 pm.
Present: Greg Kroyer, Donna Bernard, Paul LaPierre, Simon Williams and
Barbara Schobel.
Absent: None
Public Present: Rob Allison, Catskill Region Surveying Services, P.C.
Agenda Item 2: Approval of the Minutes for October 6, 2021
Mr. Williams made a motion, 2nd by Ms. Bernard and carried unanimously,
the board moved to accept the minutes of October 6, 2021.
Agenda Item 3: Application for Boundary Line Adjustment for parcel ID #111.00-3-7, owned by Stephan Curley and parcel ID #111.00-3-8 owned by Vernon and Mary Ann Tompkins. Represented by Surveyor Nick Gulla from Thew Associates.
The Applicant was unable to make the meeting.
Agenda Item 4: Application for minor subdivision for Parcel ID# I31.00-1-24 owned by Robert Mallory and represented by Surveyor Rob Allison (Catskill Region Surveying Services, P.C.).
The board reviewed Mr. Mallory’s application for a minor subdivision.
It was found that the application was in order. The only part that was missing from Mr. Mallory’s application was a letter giving permission for Mr. Allison of Catskill Region Surveying Services, P.C. to represent him. The board requested that Mr. Allison bring that letter to the next planning board meeting. Mr. Mallory paid the $700 fee,
$500 for the minor subdivision application and $200 for the sketch plan review and a receipt was provided by the secretary. The Planning Board members then reviewed SEQR part 1 and completed it.
Ms. Bernard made a motion, 2nd by Mr. LaPierre and carried unanimously,
the board moved to declare lead agency status for this unlisted action.
The Planning Board then preliminarily completed the SEQR part 2 and 3 and instructed the secretary to send the referral to Cynthia Garcia, SEQR Coordinator.
Mr. LaPierre made a motion, 2nd by Ms. Bernard and carried unanimously, the board moved to go forward with a public hearing for Mr. Mallory’s minor subdivision at the next planning board meeting which is scheduled for December 2, 2021 at 8pm.
Roll Call Vote: AYE Bernard, Williams, LaPierrre and Schobel
The secretary will place a legal ad in The Catskill Daily Mail regarding the public hearing.
Mr. Allison was then furnished with the public hearing signs along with instructions on how to post and a letter form that is to be sent to adjoining property owners thru certified mail regarding the Subdivision Public Hearing. He was also given the names and address of all those that he must notify. Mr. Allison received a certification form of posting public hearing notice sign and a certification form of mailing notices of public hearing to adjoining property owners.
Agenda Item 6: Greene County Planning Board – Update from Paul LaPierre
Mr. LaPierre gave an update from the Greene County Planning Board regarding the months of July, August, September and October.
Most notable are the projects that are currently ongoing on the mountain top
as listed below, for a complete list of all applications in Greene County please visit https://www.greenegovernment.com/departments/planning-and-economic-development/greene-county-planning-board.
-Application was made for a 1,900 square foot expansion of an existing restaurant formally known as Chalet Fondue.
-The Village of Hunter has made application for replacement of existing 40kW outdoor generator (diesel emergency generator) with a sound attenuated enclosure and associated above ground 330 gallon working capacity belly tank with a new 60kW outdoor generator module (diesel emergency generator) with a sound attenuated enclosure and with associated above ground 450 gallon belly tank at the same exterior location, which is behind the building, within the parking lot of the property. Existing concrete pad will be replaced with new concrete pad. No underground fuel oil piping is required. Portable generator will be used on-site during project.
-Windham Draft Comprehensive Plan, informal review.
-Application was made by Town of Hunter resident Mark Landsman who is looking to change office space to a retail cheese shop.
-The village of Tannersville Hunter Foundation/ The Pantry on Main has made application to repurpose the former strip mall into a Market, Restaurant, Short Term Rentals and Rental Units. To be purchased from the Hunter Foundation.
-The village of Tannersville, application by Bertrand/ Groff SFR made application to build a single family residence on vacant lot. Home was on-site decades ago and torn down. Water and sewer being verified.
Agenda Item 7: Other Business- Updates by Chair Kroyer.
Mr. Kroyer discussed training opportunities with the board to keep up their educational credits. He advised them to look into the many good training courses on-line thru the Greene County Planning Board.
Mr. Kroyer brought up the current Zoning Board of Appeals case in where the applicant would like to put in a 12.76kW-AC usage for a ground mounted solar system and our code only approves a maximum of 10kW-AC. The owner is seeking a variance for the extra 2.76kW-AC.
NYS is currently allowing up to 25kW-AC usage and Mr. Kroyer would like the board to think about possibly recommending to the Town Board that our code regarding kW-AC usage be updated. Lastly, Mr. Kroyer brought up the possibility of a future case involving a boundary adjustment.
There being no other business, Mr. LaPierre made a motion, 2nd by Ms. Schobel and carried unanimously to adjourn the meeting at 9:33pm.
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Planning Board Secretary
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Chair
Added: November 09, 2021
Agenda Item 1: Call to Order and Roll Call
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 pm.
Present: Greg Kroyer, Donna Bernard, Paul LaPierre, Simon Williams and
Barbara Schobel.
Absent: None
Agenda Item 2: Approval of the Minutes for September 2, 2021
Mr. Williams made a motion, 2nd by Ms. Bernard and carried unanimously,
the board moved to accept the minutes of September 2, 2021.
Agenda Item 3: Application for Boundary Line Adjustment for parcel ID #111.00-3-7, owned by Stephan Curley and parcel ID #111.00-3-8 owned by Vernon and Mary Ann Tompkins. Represented by Surveyor Nick Gulla from Thew Associates.
The Applicant was unable to make the meeting and requested to be placed on next month’s agenda. The board took the time to pre-view and discuss the case.
Agenda Item 4: Application for minor subdivision for Parcel ID No. 147.00-3-16,
located on Wright Road, owned by Tsarkoe Selo, LLC, and represented by
Dmitriy Ryzhov (Sardo Land Surveying).
The board called Mr. Ryzhov to the floor to make sure he had all his appropriate paperwork in order. The board confirmed that Mr. Ryzhov had signed both the certification of posting of public hearing notice sign and certification of mailing notices of public hearing to adjoining property owners. Mr. Ryzhov posted the required notice on his property and he produced all certified receipts showing that he had notified his neighbors of the public hearing.
Agenda Item 5: Public Hearing for Minor Subdivision for Parcel ID# I47.00-3-16 owned by Tsarskoe Selo, LLC represented by Dmitriy Ryzhov (Sardo Land Surveying)
Mr. Williams made a motion, 2nd by Ms. Bernard and the public hearing was opened at 7:54 pm. There was no public present. However, one neighbor, Michelle Yost wrote a letter of concern which was read aloud during the public hearing.
The letter stated:
Regarding the two lot subdivision proposed by Tsarskoe Selo, LLC, I would like to impress the planning board and applicant pay close attention to the wet areas that drain the upland slopes between properties 147.00-3-14 (formally Stopka) and the applicant, 147.00-3-16.
At the bottom of the two properties are probable wetlands (poorly drained soils, flat area and runoff from upland) Many years ago before the driveway was put in to the former Stopka property, my nephew and I found a snapping turtle in the ditch around where the driveway is now, a wetland indicator.
When the driveway was constructed, it shunted the drainage to the east closer to the Tsarkoe Selo, LLC property. Since then, there is a constant source of runoff coming down to the town ditch. Constructing a driveway for the two lot subdivision will further exacerbate the runoff to this small area, causing potential problems to the town road and my mother’s property (pole barn and house). The area along the road is poorly drained. There is little to no elevation between the town road and the state culvert under 23A, meaning what is coming off the hill is pooling around the lower properties.
Extreme caution and planning is warranted to ensure if a driveway is constructed in this area, the layout of such an access road adhere to low impact development to minimize runoff problems below and minimize further channeling of an already channelized slope causing drainage problems to town infrastructure and the properties below. Thank you for the opportunity to comment. Sincerely, Michelle Yost.”
Planning Board Member, Mr. LaPierre confirmed that in fact there is a problem in that area with drainage and he would like the letter to be forwarded to the town Highway Superintendent. The board then told Mr. Ryzhov that before he builds a driveway he must get a permit from the town Highway Superintendent and that he will tell Mr. Ryzhov what kind of culvert and size he would need. The applicant agreed.
Ms. Bernard made a motion, 2nd by Ms. Schobel and carried unanimously, the board moved to close the public hearing at 8:11pm.
The board looked to review comments from SEQR coordinator, Cynthia Garcia but could not as no comments were received from Ms. Garcia.
The board did a preliminary review last month regarding part 1 and 2 of the SEQR review. The board then reviewed part 3, the determination of significance.
Mr. LaPierre made a motion, 2nd by Mr. Williams and carried unanimously, the board moved to declare a negative declaration.
Roll Call: AYE, Bernard, LaPierre, Williams and Schobel.
Mr. LaPierre made a motion, 2nd by Ms. Bernard and carried unanimously the board moved to approve Mr. Ryzhov’s application for minor subdivision for
parcel ID 147.00-3-16.
Roll Call: AYE, Bernard, LaPierre, Williams and Schobel.
Mr. LaPierre made a motion, 2nd by Mr. Williams and carried unanimously the board moved to give approval to the Chair, Mr. Kroyer to sign the mylar copy of the plans at a later date.
Agenda Item 6: Greene County Planning Board – Update from Paul LaPierre
No update was given.
Agenda Item 7: Other Business- Updates by Chair Kroyer.
Mr. Kroyer presented a case to the board that will be on next month’s agenda.
It will be for a minor subdivision. The board looked at the plans and discussed the case.
There being no other business, Ms. Schobel made a motion, 2nd by Mr. Williams and carried unanimously to adjourn the meeting at 8:53pm.
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Planning Board Secretary
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Chair
Added: October 13, 2021
Agenda Item 1: Call to Order and Roll Call
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 pm.
Present: Greg Kroyer, Donna Bernard, Simon Williams and Barbara Schobel.
Absent: Paul LaPierre
Agenda Item 2: Approval of the Minutes for August 5, 2021
Ms. Schobel made a motion, 2nd by Ms. Bernard and carried unanimously,
the board moved to accept the minutes of August 5, 2021.
Agenda Item 3: Application for minor subdivision for Parcel ID No. 147.00-3-16,
located on Wright Road, owned by Tsarkoe Selo, LLC, and represented by
Dmitriy Ryzhov (Sardo Land Surveying).
The board reviewed Mr. Ryzhov’s application for a minor subdivision.
It was found that the application was in order along with the SEQRA part 1 being completed. Mr. Ryzhov paid the $500 fee and a receipt was provided by the secretary. The Planning Board members then reviewed SEQR part 1.
Ms. Bernard made a motion, 2nd by Mr. Williams and carried unanimously,
the board moved to declare lead agency status for this unlisted action.
The Planning Board then completed the SEQR part 2 and 3 and instructed the secretary to send the referral to Cynthia Garcia, SEQR Coordinator.
Mr. Williams made a motion, 2nd by Ms. Schobel and carried unanimously, the board moved to go forward with a public hearing for Mr. Ryzhov’s minor subdivision at the next planning board meeting which is scheduled for October 7, 2021 at 8pm.
Roll Call Vote: AYE Bernard, Williams and Schobel
The secretary will place a legal ad in The Catskill Daily Mail regarding the public hearing.
Mr. Ryzhov was then furnished with the public hearing signs along with instructions on how to post and a letter form that is to be sent to adjoining property owners thru certified mail regarding the Subdivision Public Hearing. He was also given the names and address of all those that he must notify. Mr. Ryzhov received a certification form of posting public hearing notice sign and a certification form of mailing notices of public hearing to adjoining property owners.
Agenda Item 4: Greene County Planning Board – Update from Paul LaPierre
There was no update as Mr. LaPierre was absent.
Agenda Item 5: Other Business- Updates by Chair Kroyer.
Mr. Kroyer updated the board regarding Christopher Polizois, who was approved for a boundary lot line adjustment at last month’s meeting. Mr. Kroyer said, “He had Holtz Surveying draw up his maps but they were not stamped. We had instructed him to take it back to his surveyor and have him make it official, stamp them and file them”.
Mr. Polizois tried to reach out to his surveyor with no response. He decided to hire another surveyor, the one who surveyed his neighbor’s property, Fredrick Metzler from Latham. He was able to get the maps stamped and came into the townhouse for
Mr. Kroyer to sign them. He then took them down that day to file with the county.
Mr. Kroyer related to the board that C&C’s special use permit will be expiring on 11/5/21 and they have requested an extension. They have also requested a minor site plan revision.
Mr. Williams made a motion, 2nd by Ms. Schobel and carried, the board moved to grant C&C an extension on their special use permit which shall take effect on 11/5/2021 and expire on 11/5/2023.
Roll Call Vote: AYE Bernard, Williams and Schobel.
Ms. Bernard made a motion, 2nd by Ms. Schobel and carried, the board moved to approve the minor site plan revision.
Roll Call Vote: AYE Bernard, Williams and Schobel.
There being no other business, Ms. Bernard made a motion, 2nd by Ms. Schobel and carried unanimously to adjourn the meeting at 8:57.
___Maya Carl_____________________________
Planning Board Secretary
____Greg Kroyer____________________________
Chair
Added: September 09, 2021
Agenda Item 1: Call to Order and Roll Call
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m.
Present: Greg Kroyer, Donna Bernard, Paul LaPierre, and Barbara Schobel
Absent: Simon Williams
Agenda Item 2: Approval of the Minutes for July 1, 2021
Mr. Kroyer said he would entertain a motion to approve the minutes. Mr. LaPierre moved to approve the minutes. Ms. Bernard seconded the motion, and it carried unanimously.
Agenda Item 3: Application for Subdivision Sketch Plan Review for Parcel ID No. 147.00-3-17, located on Wright Road, owned by Tsarkoe Selo, LLC, and represented by Dmitriy Ryzhov (Sardo Land Surveying)
Mr. Kroyer had provided the Planning Board photocopies of the Flag Lot law. He said he was looking for the applicant to provide a completed Application for Subdivision Sketch Plan Review, the application fee of $200, and maps of the proposed subdivision
Mr. Ryzhov represented this project tonight. He handed Mr. Kroyer the requested paperwork, including the SEQRA. The secretary collected the fee and provided Mr. Ryzhov a receipt.
The maps were spread. There is a house that sits on four acres with its own driveway. Mr. Kroyer asked about the geography, and wondered if a driveway could be put in, and Mr. Ryzhov answered yes. There are three hundred and twenty feet (320’) of road frontage by the house. There are one hundred and seventeen feet (117’) on the other frontage. They are creating a separate vacant parcel from the four-acre lot that the house sits on. There is another house on one side of the property, which is not a flag lot. Mr. Kroyer said there is no other flag lot here. Mr. LaPierre noted where Mr. Wright’s property sits. Mr. Kroyer had been concerned that the Planning Board does not create another corridor of a flag lot adjacent to another corridor of another flag lot. There is a big chalet. Mr. Ryzhov said that place had recently been sold. There is one house that he himself manages as an AirBnB, but he is not the party of whom complaints have been made.
Mr. Kroyer said that the Board is allowed to create a flag lot under certain circumstances. In this case there is a long narrow lot and this parcel seems to fall well within the scope of Jewett’s Flag Lot law. He asked the Board for their thoughts. Mr. LaPierre said he agreed, and Ms. Bernard answered that it is well within the intention of the law.
Mr. Kroyer said that he is informally asking the Board tonight whether this is the action that it should pursue. The Board concluded that this is the only reasonable option to pursue for the use of this land. Mr. LaPierre said they could not subdivide this land further, but Mr. Kroyer answered that it could, as long as the applicants were willing to put a formal road in. Mr. Ryzhov said that they have not intentions of that now.
Mr. Kroyer said that Mr. Ryzhov has most of the required material to move forward, and gave him a packet with some additional materials in it. He expects that at the next meeting they will review the SEQRA and set the date for the Public Hearing for the October meeting.
A file was prepared for Mr. Ryzhov; the material he brought was placed inside it, including one copy of his plat. Mr. Kroyer said that by October he would need to obtain a Mylar copy for filing in the Greene County Real Property and Tax Office.
Agenda Item 4: Application for Minor Subdivision and Public Hearing for Parcel ID No. 147.00-2-3.11 owned by Sheepskin Hills, Inc. and represented by Brooks and Brooks Land Surveyors, PC
Mr. Brooks provided the $200 check owed from last month, and the secretary provided a receipt. He did not have the Public Hearing sign to return to Mr. Kroyer. Mr. Brooks provided the secretary with the Receipts from the Certified Mailings to the neighboring properties (which were checked against the list of abutters), the Certification of Posting the Public Hearing Notice sign, and the Certification of Mailing Notices of Public Hearing. Fourteen people were mailed, and thirteen were returned.
Mr. Kroyer said he would entertain a motion to open the Public Hearing. Ms. Bernard so moved, Mr. LaPierre seconded the motion, and it was unanimous that the Public Hearing opened at 8:00 pm. Seeing no public in attendance, Mr. Kroyer said he would entertain a motion to close the Public Hearing at 8:09 pm. Ms. Bernard so moved, Mrs. Schobel seconded the motion, which carried unanimously.
Last month, Mr. Kroyer had stated that he would not have the secretary mail in a 239 Form to the Greene County Planning Board, because in reading the NYS 239 requirements, he did not see any requirement to cover subdivisions. However, at the urging of a concerned party, he changed his mind and requested the secretary to mail in the 239 Form. The resulting form letter received from the GCPB stated: “The Greene County Planning Board does not review subdivisions and the referring body may move forward with this action without review by the Greene County Planning Board.” Mr. Kroyer said he himself followed up with a conversation with Mr. Schiafo with the same result. Mr. Kroyer said that some applications might require 239s in the future, but they will not always be necessary.
Cynthia Garcia from the NYCDEP responded with a letter also. Their concerns were (1) that the Sketch Map of Minor Subdivision and Lot Line Adjustment drawn by Brooks and Brooks should show the proposed locations for the primary absorption and reserve SSTS areas for Lot 2; (2) that any SSTS associated with the barn on Lot 2 be shown on the map; (3) that soil testing in the proposed SSTS areas should be conducted to demonstrate whether suitable soils exist on the project site; and (4) that the extent of the watercourse also be shown in the plans. Mr. Brooks said that no building is planned, and they have included a disclaimer that no building will be permitted without NYSDEP approval. He said there was a cattle barn that was removed several years ago. Further, the Board did not feel that SSTS plans are needed without plans to build. Mr. Brooks did review the soils and provided a copy of that in the record. He said he had sent Ms. Garcia a pdf copy of the plat with all pertinent information.
Mr. Kroyer asked for the SEQRA paperwork. He asked whether any one had any information that would lead them to change their mind on giving the SEQRA a Negative Declaration.
Mr. Kroyer said he would entertain a motion to accept the Negative Declaration of the SEQRA process. Ms. Bernard so moved, Mrs. Schobel seconded the move, and it was subject to a Roll Call Vote: Ms. Bernard – aye; Mr. LaPierre – aye; and Mrs. Schobel – aye.
Mr. Kroyer then said he would entertain a motion to approve this application for a Minor Subdivision for Sheepskin Hills, Inc., Parcel ID No. 147.00-3-3.11. Mrs. Schobel so moved, and Mr. LaPierre seconded the motion, which was subject to a Roll Call Vote: Ms. Bernard – aye; Mr. LaPierre – aye; and Mrs. Schobel – aye. The subdivision passed. Mr. Brooks was provided with the Final Decision form, while Mr. Kroyer signed the plats. Mr. Kroyer reminded Mr. Brooks he had thirty days to file the plats.
Agenda Item 5: Application for Boundary Lot Line Adjustment for Parcel ID No. 146.00-4-5 owned by Christopher Polizois and Parcel ID No. 146.00-4-6 owned by Jeffrey Lennox. Mr. Polizois represented the application. Little Timber Road
Mr. Polizois brought five surveys of his property and five surveys of the neighbor’s property, which did not show the Boundary Lot Line Adjustment, and five copies of a sketch plan showing his property with the Boundary Lot Line Adjustment. Mr. Kroyer said the Letter of Representation was not needed, because the neighbor, Mr. Lennox, had signed the application. Also provided were the deed descriptions for both resulting parcels.
The Planning Board received the check for $200, and a receipt was provided for Mr. Polizoi. The school district for both parcels is Hunter Tannersville Central School District. The properties are located on Little Timber Road. Mr. Polizois’ home is an octagon, as delineated on the plats, and very close to the property line. The home was built in 1980, prior to the Zoning law. He said that the purpose of the Boundary Line Adjustment is to provide space for his new leach field, and the topography of his land has been very hard to work with. The grassy area to the right is the only area they could work with. Mr. Lennox had agreed to sell him the small acreage (0.06 acres). The agreed upon fee is to be donated to a local charity, and they chose the Hunter Foundation. Mr. Lennox is also replacing his septic system.
Mr. Polizois said that his septic system is not in trouble now, but is rated as likely to fail. It is all going to be underground, and had to be located well away from the underground holding tank he has for his water. He may plant a few additional trees. He said he has been working to get this point for over two years, and ended up duplicating pit tests, because neither he nor the neighbor was certain where the property line lay. He is working with the Catskill Watershed Corporation (CWC).
Charles Holz, his surveyor, has been difficult to reach, but provided the drawing for the Boundary Lot Line Adjustment. Mr. Polizois bought his property from Rob Katz. The survey maps did not have the BLLA drawn on them, and the Boundary Lot Line map had no surveyor’s stamp on it. Mr. Kroyer wanted one of each for the file.
Mr. LaPierre wondered if the DEP had signed off on everything, and Mr. Polizois said they had. Mr. LaPierre wondered if there was a requirement for a backup leach field, but Mr. Kroyer said that was not something the PB needed to look at. The septic plan is up to the Building Inspector and the DEP.
Mr. Kroyer entertained a motion to approve the application for the Boundary Lot Line Adjustment. Mr. LaPierre so moved, Mrs. Schobel seconded the motion, and it was subjected to a Roll Call Vote: Ms. Bernard – aye; Mr. LaPierre – aye; and Mrs. Schobel – aye.
Mr. Kroyer signed the Boundary Lot Line plat, but since the map did not have a surveyor’s stamp, Mr. Brooks (present for another application) said that such a stamp was required. Mr. Polizois will have the challenge of tracking his surveyor down, using the neighbor’s surveyor, or engaging someone new.
Mr. Kroyer asked for a motion from the Planning Board to allow him to re-sign the maps once they are surveyor stamped. Ms. Bernard so moved, and Mrs. Schobel seconded the motion, which carried unanimously. Mr. Polizoi said he intends to get this done ASAP, and will return for Mr. Kroyer’s final signature. Mr. Kroyer informed Mr. Polizoi that he has thirty days to file the completed maps with the Greene County Real Property Tax people. Mr. Kroyer asked Mr. Polizoi to please have his surveyor provide a box for the Planning Board signatory. A Decision Form was filled out and provided to the applicant.
Agenda Item 6: Greene County Planning Board report from Cynthia LaPierre
In the Village of Hunter, the Planning Board is reviewing a Site Plan Application at the Verizon building for replacement of the existing 40kW Outdoor Generator Module with a sound attenuated enclosure and associated above ground three hundred and thirty gallon working capacity belly tank with a new 60kW Outdoor Generator Module with a sound attenuated enclosure and with associated four hundred and fifty gallon belly tank at the same exterior location, behind the building, within the parking lot of the property. The existing concrete pad will be replaced with a new concrete pad. No underground fuel oil piping is required. A portable generator will be used on-site during the project. The GCPB said there was no county impact, and this is a local decision.
The Town of Catskill Planning Board is reviewing a Site Plan for T&T Auto Sales to put up to fifteen cars at a lot at 1136 Route 23 on display for retail sales, operating out of an existing office building. The parcel is located in the “Highway Commercial” zoning district. According to the Site Plan Application, “Retail Car Sales” is a listed permitted use. There will be a small sign by the road and a sign on the building. Site Plan shows existing sign, but does not show the new sign. There is no planned landscaping. The GCPB ruled that there is no county impact, so this remains a local decision.
Agenda Item 7: Other Business
The Planning Board celebrated Mrs. Epstein’s retirement from the Planning Board with a beautiful bouquet of flowers and an amazon gift card. She has served for fourteen years. Mrs. Epstein will come in during the coming week to go over some of the ropes with Mrs. Carl, who is taking over the job.
Mr. LaPierre said that he will not be present at next month’s meeting of the Planning Board because his son is getting married.
Agenda Item 8: Adjournment
Ms. Bernard motioned to adjourn the meeting at 9:15 p.m. Mrs. Schobel seconded the motion, which carried unanimously.
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Planning Board Secretary
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Chair
Added: August 08, 2021
TOWN OF JEWETT PLANNING BOARD MINUTES JULY 1, 2021 Agenda Item 1: Call to Order and Roll Call The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. Present: Greg Kroyer, Donna Bernard, Paul LaPierre, Barbara Schobel, and Simon Williams Agenda Item 2: Approval of the Minutes for June 3, 2021 The minutes were reviewed, with minor corrections made. Mr. Kroyer said he would entertain a motion to approve the minutes. Ms. Bernard so motioned, Mr. LaPierre seconded the motion, which carried unanimously. Agenda Item 3: Application for Altered Lot Line for Parcel ID No. 147.00-2-3.11 and 147.00-3-23.12 owned by Sheepskin Hills, Inc. and represented by Brooks and Brooks, Land Surveyors. The applicant provided a Letter of Agent/Representation that covers both applications, a Letter of Intent, completed the Application for Altered Lot Line, provided the fee of $200, a subdivision map containing the proposed alteration, deed descriptions of both parcels, and School District information for the two parcels. Ms. Bernard asked how many acres were being transferred. Mr. Brooks said that two and seventy-nine hundredths (2.79) acres belonging to Parcel A (Parcel ID No. 147-3-23.12), were being moved to Parcel ID No. 147.00-2-3.11. This will increase Parcel ID No. 147.00-2-3.11 from twenty-six and twenty-five hundredths (26.25) acres to twenty-nine and sixty-five hundredths (29.65) acres, and decrease Parcel ID No. 147-3-23.12 from twenty-one and thirty-seven hundredths (21.37) acres to eighteen and fifty-eight hundredths (18.58) acres. The larger parcel will then be subdivided into ten and seventy-three hundredths (10.73) acres – Lot One, and eighteen and thirty-one hundredths (18.39) acres – Lot Two. The future Lot One is encumbered by the 480A real property benefits providing an eighty percent (80%) decrease in property taxes. Once a parcel is withdrawn from the 480A, it triggers a repayment of the reduced taxes previously enjoyed. The subdivided property will have a deed restriction stating that no more than two homes can be built on that eighteen and thirty-one hundredths (18.39) acre parcel- Lot Two. The Zoning district is Rural Residential, of two and a half (2.5) acres. The soils and slopes are nice with plenty of frontage, Mr. Brooks noted. Mrs. Epstein provided Mr. Brooks with a receipt for the $200 he paid for this application, and assured that all the material is in the folder. Mr. Kroyer said that he would entertain a motion to approve the Altered Lot Line Application. Mr. LaPierre made the motion, Mr. Williams seconded the motion, and subjected it to a Roll Call Vote: Ms. Bernard – aye; Mr. LaPierre – aye; Mrs. Schobel – aye; and Mr. Williams – aye. Mr. Kroyer provided the applicant’s representative with a copy of the Decision Form, with the condition that the Application approval is to become effective on August 5, 2021. This condition will allow the applicant the necessary time to file this application at Greene County Real Property Tax, together with the subsequent Minor Subdivision Application. Agenda Item 4: Application for Subdivision Sketch Plan Review and Application for Minor Subdivision for Parcel ID No. 147.00-2-3.1, also represented by Brooks and Brooks, L.S. Mr. Brooks handed Mrs. Epstein the fee of $500 for the Minor Subdivision Application. He supplied the completed Application for the Subdivision Sketch Plan Review, the completed Application for the Minor Two-Lot Subdivision, a list of the abutting properties, a record of the $500 received toward the Minor Subdivision, the SEQR Part 1, and a photographic copy of the 480A Tax Law Map. Missing was the Sketch Plan Review fee of $200, which Mr. Brooks promised to bring next month. Mr. LaPierre read aloud the short form SEQRA Part One for this unlisted action. All questions were answered in the negative. Mr. Williams read aloud the SEQRA Part Two and Three. There was a small red flag in terms of an archeological site. Mr. Brooks said they had found no evidence of anything archeological while surveying. He said they usually look for old mills and that type of thing, but there were none. The Planning Board gave the SEQRA a preliminary Negative Declaration, pending any further information turning up at next month’s Public Hearing. Mr. Kroyer explained that he had learned that this application did not require a 239 Form to be filed with the Greene County Planning Board, because it is not a listed action. He said that for Major Subdivisions and Special Use Permits, we are required to file one. Mr. Kroyer then said he would entertain a motion to hold the Public Hearing on August 5, 2021 at 8:00 p.m. Mr. Williams so motioned, the motion was seconded by Ms. Bernard, and subject to a Roll Call Vote: Ms. Bernard – aye; Mr. LaPierre – aye; Mrs. Schobel – aye; and Mr. Williams – aye. Mr. Kroyer provided Mr. Brooks with the Public Hearing sign and instructions for posting, the form letter to be sent to the neighbors, the Certification of Posting Public Hearing Notice sign, and the Certification of mailing the notices of Public Hearing to the adjoining property owners. Mr. Kroyer called for a motion to declare the Town of Jewett Lead Agency for this unlisted action. Ms. Bernard so motioned, Mrs. Schobel seconded the motion, and it passed unanimously. Mr. Kroyer reminded Mrs. Epstein to send a letter to Cynthia Garcia, SEQRA Coordinator, and to post a Legal Ad in the local paper for the Public Hearing. Agenda Item 5: Greene County Planning Board report from Cynthia LaPierre The Town of Coxsackie brought forward changes to Local Law, a Lot Line Adjustment, to include review and approval to streamline Lot Line Adjustments. The GCPB recommended that Lot Line Adjustments should be submitted to the County Clerk, and that the Town should contact the County Clerk for required documents and fees. In the Town of New Baltimore, a Special Use Permit was brought for a residential ground mount Solar panel that was in excess of the size allowed by code. This would include twenty-eight panels in a seven-foot by four-foot array, on fourteen and a half acres along the Hudson. It will not be seen from the River. GCPB approved this unanimously. In the Town of Athens, a Site Plan Review was brought forward for a Verizon Wireless Small Cell facility on a ten-foot by ten-foot leased area on the Schoharie Turnpike. The GCPB said this was a local decision. In the Town of Athens, Peckham Industries proposes the relocation of the existing visual screening berm at the PARCO facility from its current location behind the office/garage to an area adjacent to Schoharie Turnpike, remaining on the PARCO property. The GCPB approved this unanimously. In the Town of Catskill, there was an Area Variance for an addition to a food storage building on Cauterskill Avenue. The GCPB ruled this a local decision. In the Town of Catskill, Conkline Architects on Fyke Road brought forward an Area Variance for the placement of a sign. The GCPB said the referral was unclear, and requested that future referrals provide clear, consistent drawings and application. In the Town of Hunter, Deer Mountain Inn brought a Site Plan Review to add four cabins and one temporary Airstream to expand accommodations for guests on the County Route 25 ROW. This application is replacing a previous application for eight additional cabins. They are to develop a Stormwater Protection Plan. GCPB said this is a local decision, and requested that in the future full-sized drawings with referrals should accompany the Site Plan Review. In the Town of Prattsville, there was an enactment of a local law establishing a six-month moratorium of the approval of Site Plans. Although it was not explicitly stated, the Planning Board had heard that it was in relation to a Family Dollar store. Agenda Item 6: Other Business: Upcoming Applications Mr. Kroyer said that an application for a Subdivision Sketch Plan Review for a two-lot subdivision for parcel ID No. 147.00-3-17, owned by Tsarskoe Selo LLC (Dmitry Ryzhov) and represented by Sardo Land Surveying, will be coming before the Board next month. The property, consisting of about thirty acres, is on the high side of Wright Road. The issue is road frontage, and Mr. Kroyer recommended that the Board review the flag lot law. Mr. Kroyer said the parcel is a long strip with a pre-existing house. Mr. LaPierre thought it was the chalet. The owner wants to subdivide this into four acres and twenty-six acres roughly. If it is the only reasonable approach to the use of the land, the Planning Board may approve a flag lot. Ms. Bernard wondered if the neighbor would provide land for a Boundary Lot Line Adjustment, because the surveyor discovered the drive way and a shed were on the neighbor’s property. If not, this could be a case of adversarial possession. Mr. LaPierre was recently looking at that property online advertised as an AirBnB, being managed by Brendon Ott. Agenda Item 7: Adjournment Ms. Bernard motioned to adjourn the meeting at 9:15 p.m. Mrs. Schobel seconded the motion, which carried unanimously. ________________________________ Planning Board Secretary ________________________________ Chair
Added: July 04, 2021
TOWN OF JEWETT PLANNING BOARD MINUTES JUNE 3, 2021 Agenda Item 1: Call to Order and Roll Call Meeting called to order at 7:30 p.m. Present: Greg Kroyer, Chair; Donna Bernard, Paul LaPierre, Barbara Schobel, and Simon Williams Agenda Item 2: Review of the Minutes of May 6, 2021 Paul LaPierre suggested a minor correction to the minutes. Mr. Williams motioned to approve the minutes as amended. The motion was seconded by Mr. LaPierre, and unanimously approved. Agenda Item 3: Flood Advisory Committee Update Mr. LaPierre had stated last month that representatives from Greene County Soil and Water were not as supportive of Mr. Kroyer’s goals as he would have liked. The planned objectives for Jewett include many improvements to our Municipal Buildings. Supervisor Pellitterri has initiated contact with the CWC Municipal septic system representative, but is still awaiting a response. Mr. Kroyer hopes that a review of our Municipal Septic System by the CWC Septic program representative will eventually lead to a replacement of our Town Hall septic system. He also hopes that by getting the ball rolling on the septic replacement, sources of funding for other intended projects can also be identified. Multiple funding sources will need to be identified for the much needed improvements. The Flood Advisory Committee is also working to identify the current and future needs of our Town Highway Department. Ideally a new Highway Garage will be under consideration. Mr. Kroyer said a precedent has been set, as the Flood Analysis Survey in other Municipalities has resulted in locating funding for such improvements. Ms. Bernard noted that the Flood Analysis group started with a “No,” but has been realizing that the Flood Committee has a great deal of knowledge about the necessary improvements for our Town. The more specifically the need is defined, Mr. LaPierre said, the better Jewett’s chance of obtaining these things. Mr. Kroyer prioritizes the highway building, which could potentially be relocated toward the rear of the property creating sufficient room to increase the parking areas. He said that water runoff from the road runs right into the existing highway garage. Ms. Bernard insisted that the more photos of real situations Mr. Kroyer could provide the Flood Analysis group, the better the case. Mr. Kroyer had already sent photos that were incorporated into the presentation, including the ones from Beaches Corners flooding several years ago. Agenda Item 4: Scenic Byway Committee Update Mr. Kroyer said that the Scenic Byway Committee got a grant from Greene County Soil and Water, so that the project can continue to move forward. Mr. Kroyer said that he felt that the Jewett taxpayers should not have to foot the bill. He stated that the Scenic Byway project has become more complicated due to additional requirements from the NYS DOT. Consultant Peter Manning has to perform additional work to meet these requirements. Mr. Kroyer anticipates the process could potentially take the rest of this year. Agenda Item 5: STR Update Mrs. Schobel has a neighbor who owns an STR, and has been renting to too many loud, partying people. Code Enforcement Officer Mr. Giangrande, did a site visit and commented that the situation is in need of attention. Either one of two things will likely occur– either the landlord will get his act together, or he will get shut down. Mr. LaPierre knew of a place where the renters ride four wheelers down the main road. He said the owner was renting a small house out to many people, and it appeared that the septic had backed up, due to excessive use. A resident came in and mentioned a motor-cross track on 23C, two properties away from his own property. Mr. Kroyer looked at the laws, and said that the use is not prohibited as long as the exhaust runs through an exaust system that is factory or identical to factory. Motor-cross is the type of thing that one neighbor might be annoyed by, yet others consider an important part of their children’s formative years. When Mr. Kroyer drove by he observed that there was one adult and three children riding their dirt bikes. Ms. Bernard said that on some weekends she has heard the sound of ATVs from where she lives, and believes the noise is coming from there now that loggers have taken trees out. Mr. Giangrande said that he would make a trip to talk to the fellow with the motor-cross, but he has no authority to shut it down. No laws exist to support that. However, the resident interpreted the law in a different manner, Mr. Kroyer noted. This is another ordinance the Board may have to visit. Topics such as ATVs, motor-cross bikes, and target shooting exemptions will be reviewed during code review. Some people had been riding down Route 23A and around Wright Road. Mr. LaPierre recalled a time when a neighboring rental was occupied by renters shooting skeet across the road from the deck. People who do not believe they have any restraints have made conditions worse in Jewett over the years. He knew from his time in the service that he was hearing automatic weapons, not semi-autos. A state trooper, an En Con cop, and a sheriff arrived to his call simultaneously. He said that bullets had struck his home as well as that of a neighbor. Mr. Williams had a similar problem in the past. In his situation, the deputy caught the youngsters who were using a paintball gun with clear bullets. Several applicants have applied for the Noise Ordinance position, Mr. Kroyer said. Agenda Item 6: Executive Session Mr. Kroyer called for an Executive session at 8:20 p.m. Ms. Bernard made the motion, which was seconded by Mr. Williams, and carried unanimously. The Board came out of Executive Session at 8:33 p.m. No action was taken. Agenda Item 7: Greene County Planning Board from Paul LaPierre In the Village of Hunter, the construction of a wine shop and studio is proposed. The Board said it is the site of the former Reynardos, and is almost directly across from the school. The Board wondered where the parking was, and Mr. LaPierre said that parking exists down the road toward Jagerberg Restaurant. Discussion of the Jewett Planning Board did not favor a wine shop so close to the Elementary School. The Site Plan submitted does not conform to the local Zoning Law, the GCPB found. It must identify: existing water courses, wetlands, FEMA flood plains, landscaping, and vegetative cover; location, use and height of all existing and proposed buildings including those on contiguous properties; all existing and proposed means of vehicular ingress and egress to and from the site and onto public streets; design and construction materials of all parking and truck loading areas; and provision for pedestrian access. There is a need to address flood measures, as this is located in the one hundred year floodplain. The existing foundation may not prove adequate. In the Town of Catskill, an application was received for a Special Use Permit for a pet crematorium. They plan an installation of a gravel drive and gravel pad for two shipping containers that will contain a freezer and pet crematorium. There will be no visitors or office on the site. The GCPB ruled this a local decision. They will need state licensing and permits, including an air permit from DEC. Also in the Town of Catskill, at the site of the old Carson City, a Special Use Permit is sought for a recreational park with go-karts, batting cages, and mini-golf. The GCPB found the parking area to be quite significant, and suggested a gravel permeable surface to help with Stormwater runoff, and green infrastructures such as rain gardens. It queried whether the go-karts would be gas powered or electric, and noted that no site for the mini golf was located on the site plan. An Area Variance was received for the construction of a tree house (mini-cabin) and sidewalk on Malden Avenue in Palenville, located in the Town of Catskill. Mr. LaPierre said the thing had already been built and that a violation had already been issued. The GCPB noted this is a local issue, but said that future 239 referrals should include consistent drawings with the applications and all related zoning board minutes, notes, decisions, and enforcement actions. This is intended as an AirBnB. Agenda Item 8: Other Business: updates Upcoming applications: There is a Minor Subdivision on Route 23A represented by Lydia Piaseckyj. She has been to visit Mr. Kroyer, and it seems she is having difficulty finding a surveyor. There are several potential subdivisions being mentioned, including several major subdivisions. There is one on Goshen, one in the Colgate Lake area and a couple more that prospectve buyers are contemplating. Mr. Williams said he previously brought the Colgate Lake acreage to the Planning Board’s attention. Mr. Kroyer has no applications yet. Mr. LaPierre suggested a candidate as his replacement for the Planning Board. The Board does not want Mr. LaPierre to leave, so Ms. Bernard suggested bringing this resident on as an alternate member. Mr. Kroyer will explore this possibility. He will ask Supervisor Pellitteri and Mr. Rappleyea. Ms. Bernard thought perhaps, possibly, that two alternate members could serve on the Planning Board. Agenda Item 9: Adjournment The meeting was adjourned at 9:02 p.m. with a motion by Mr. LaPierre, and seconded by Mrs. Schobel, and approved unanimously. ____________________________________________, Secretary ____________________________________________, Chair
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TOWN OF JEWETT PLANNING BOARD MINUTES MAY 6, 2021 Agenda Item 1: Call to Order Meeting called to order at 7:30 p.m. Present: Greg Kroyer, Chair; Paul LaPierre, Barbara Schobel, and Simon Williams Absent: Donna Bernard Agenda Item 2: Approval of the Minutes of April 1, 2021 Mr. LaPierre made the first motion; it was seconded by Mr. Williams, and approved as amended. Agenda Item 3: Kevin and Alana Kulesa presenting a Site Plan Revision for Adena Orchard and Vine LLC, Tax Parcel ID Nos. 110.00-6-6 and 111.0-1-54 located at 651/701 Merwin Street, Jewett Mr. Kulesa appeared before the Planning Board to represent his Site Plan Revision. Mr. Kroyer had provided the Board members with Site Plan copies from the Kulesas’ earlier application. Mr. Kulesa provided an updated Plan. Right now it says “storage” in regard to the second barn, which he would like to renovate for the receptions. Ceremonies would still take place at the Rosedale Barn. The Kirkman Barn is central to the property, and the flow works. It will be an improvement to have the guests park, and walk down to the ceremony and then to the reception. The updated plan is the one on their business website, and is the trail map he hands out to guests. He has graphically added trees to the grounds, and illustrated the Kirkman barn, which is very central to the grounds. Mr. Kulesa has engaged a contractor to restore the Kirkman Barn this summer. The barn is in the center of the property, and this plan moves wedding festivities further away from all of the neighbors. The one neighbor that had concerns is now further away. Mr. Kroyer asked, “What is essentially different from the old site plan?” Mr. Kulesa pointed out there are now more trails and lawn made to improve the area, and named for a friendly touch. Mowing revealed areas that were too low, or rocky, or full of holes, so what gets mowed changed accordingly. He had Big Top Tent come out to look at the area. They have not yet had a tent on the property, so he cannot say for certain how it will work. The first guests he has scheduled for next year have asked for a tent outside the Rosedale barn to increase their seating capacity from the ninety-nine (99) allowed under the safety code (because they don’t have sprinklers), to the one hundred and twenty-five guests (125) that the wedding party is inviting. Mr. Kroyer wondered whether the Kirkman Barn has electricity, and if the Kulesas would run a line from their home. Mr. Kulesa said that the barn does not have electric yet. They do not want an overhead wire contaminating the scenery, and an underground wire would prove expensive at this time. He said they are currently using a 3500-watt, “quiet,” Predator generator from Harbor Freight. It’s sound is muffled by the shed/silo it is operated from. All lighting is LED festive lighting that does not use much power. All other electric such as required by the coffee urns are provided by the caterers. Trucks and traffic from the caterer will be moved to the other side of the property from the side where the neighbor lives. The Kulesas supply just the grounds. The wedding parties bring in their own caterers, who will now be using the driveway next to the old apple tree. Again, the traffic and catering trucks will be coming to the center of the property well away from any neighbors. Mr. Kulesa said he had spoken with the neighbor who originally had some issues with the wedding venues and invited him on a tour of the property to show him what they have been planning. He feels this neighbor is comfortable with the new plans. Mr. Kroyer asked whether the parking stays the same. Mr. Kulesa answered that it does, and added that the entire festivity of caterers, reception, and wedding party are now to be relegated to the center of the property, nearer to his house. Mr. Kulesa further noted that he is sinking a lot of money into renovating this huge barn, that they have had three weddings in the history of his business, that they have four scheduled this year, and seven planned for next year. He wondered if there were any limits on the number of events they could have? He is concerned that at some future date the Planning Board or the Town might seek to limit his business, and he wants assurance that he will be able to recoup his investment in renovating the barn. Mr. Kroyer said that he couldn’t speak to someone trying to limit the number of events Mr. Kulesa can host, but that the Special Use Permit (SUP) sets no limitations. Mr. LaPierre thought that since there is no limit, it should be grandfathered into the SUP. Mr. Kulesa also asked whether he would need to see the Code Enforcement Officer regarding the tent situation. This would be for a twenty-foot by twenty-foot (20’ x 20’) tent. Mr. Kroyer said that as Mr. Kulesa has shown the tent placement on the Site Plan, he did not anticipate a need to visit the Code Enforcement Officer, but recommended that he check with Mr. Giangrande for certainty. Mr. Kroyer said that the Board would have to make the decision whether Mr. Kulesa’s revisions are acceptable. Mr. Williams stated that by changing the venue barn, the distance between events and the neighbors has increased from four hundred to five hundred yards. Mr. Kulesa assured the Board the distance was greater than that, since the parcel was fifteen (15) acres, and that he has planted some more privacy trees. Mr. Kroyer summarized that there is nothing new except the relocation of the venue to the center of the property away from the neighbors, there are a couple of potential tent sites, and that the Kulesas have always proven compliant with the Town of Jewett. The Planning Board considered that this Revision would improve the existing situation. Mr. Kroyer said that he would entertain a motion to approve Mr. Kulesa’s Revisions to the Site Plan. Mr. LaPierre so motioned, Mr. Williams seconded the motion, and it was subject to a Role Call Vote: Mr. LaPierre – aye; Mrs. Schobel – aye; and Mr. Williams – aye. The motion carried. Mr. Kulesa was given a copy of the Decision Form, and the original and the Revised Site Plan were placed in the applicant’s file. Agenda Item 4: Greene County Planning Board from Paul LaPierre From the April GCPB minutes: Jagerberg Beer Hall in the Village of Hunter brought an application for a Minor Revision to an Existing Site Plan to increase parking and outdoor seating alongside the Route 23A ROW. The GCPB ruled this a local decision, and suggested wetlands and floodplains need to be considered. In the Village of Hunter, a Site Plan Review for a wine shop and studio to be constructed on an existing foundation was sent back due to incompletion. The Town of Jewett seeks Enactment of a new Local Law regulating Short Term Rentals and a Zoning Law Amendment to a Local Law regarding the noise ordinance. Concern was expressed about enforcing the noise ordinance, hiring an enforcer, and suggested that instead of a “written garbage disposal plan” the Town term it a written “trash and recycling plan” to be in adherence with state recycling laws. In the Town of Catskill, there is an application for a Special Use Permit for conversion of a single family dwelling into a two family dwelling along the State Route 23 ROW. This was regarded as a local decision with no county impact. The Town of Catskill also received an Area Variance for the construction of a garage along the Route 23 ROW. This was regarded as having no county impact and would be a local decision. The Village of Athens is amending a Local Law for zoning concerning the mixed use of waterfront district, revised to allow light industrial and arts and educational. This was regarded as a local decision. The Town of Catskill received a second application for Special Use Permit for the conversion of a single family dwelling into a two family dwelling. This was regarded as having no county impact, but Anthony’s Banquet Hall queried about parking for the house. Agenda Item 5: Other Business: updates Flood Analysis – Mr. Kroyer and Mr. LaPierre will meet with the LFA Committee on May 20th. Mr. Kroyer said that the Committee is working on identifying areas in need of improvement for the Town and hope to present this at the next Local Flood Analysis meeting. Jewett has many flood related issues and a great need for rebuilding capital. The Flood Analysis Study should be done approximately within a year. Mr. LaPierre had met with Joel Dubois from Greene County Soil and Water, and two representatives from SLR, the consulting firm, and thought that they did not seem as supportive of Mr. Kroyer’s ambitions as he would hope. Mr. Kroyer emphasized there is a need. Suggested improvements included replacing the old septic system with a new one, replacing the old town highway garage, creating a Stormwater Pollution Prevention System, replacing two undersize culverts on Route 23C and Beaches Corners Rd., reconfiguring the driveway and parking areas, replacing the roof and chimney on the Municipal Building, and perhaps adding some additional storage space. Agenda Item 6: Adjournment The meeting was adjourned at 8:55 p.m. with a motion by Mr. LaPierre, and seconded by Mr. Williams, and approved unanimously. ____________________________________________, Secretary ____________________________________________, Chair
Added: May 08, 2021
Agenda Item 1: Call to Order
Meeting called to order at 7:30 p.m.
Present: Greg Kroyer, Chair; Donna Bernard, Paul LaPierre, Barbara Schobe
Absent: Simon Williams
Agenda Item 2: Approval of the Minutes of March 4, 2021
Ms. Bernard made the first motion; it was seconded by Mr. LaPierre, and approved as amended.
Agenda Item 3: Zoning Code Review
The overall Zoning Code Review is to take place every three years. Mr. Kroyer said he wants to organize the process in a nice, precise way. Perhaps next month the Board will tackle this if there is nothing else on the agenda.
When Ms. Bernard was Chair, she said they had a nice complete list, and the Board was able to tweak the language to improve interpretation of the law for the Town of Jewett. She asked Mr. Kroyer if he were intending to ask the Town Board if there were special considerations they wanted done.
He answered that the Town Board needed first to pass the STR Amendments, and employ someone to document violations. The Town Board Zoom meeting and Public Hearing are planned for 6 p.m. on April 14th in the Town Municipal Building. The link is already on the Town website.
From the Planning Board’s perspective, a lot of work was done and then presented to the Town Board and community last month. Mr. Kroyer presented the written and proposed amendments.
Mr. Kroyer has given Mr. LaPierre’s comments from last months meeting, formatted just as Mr. LaPierre wrote it to Mr. Pellitterri and Mr. Giangrande – Mr. Kroyer will post it after the minutes are listed on the website. Ms. Bernard commented what a great idea that was for maintaining a record.
Agenda Item 4: Greene County Planning Board from Paul LaPierre
From the March GCPB minutes:
In the Town of Catskill, an Area Variance is sought for the construction of a front porch on a two-family dwelling. The GCPB decided this was a local decision with no county impact.
In the Town of New Baltimore, a Site Plan Review and Special Use Permit are sought for an Installation of 6.4 MW DC Community Solar array called Project Oriole. The project was sent back by the GCPB to be completed prior to review with a long list detailing what was needed.
The Village of Athens is creating an amendment to its Local Law regarding the mixed use/waterfront district, which will prohibit industrial uses. The amendment was approved by the GCPB.
In the Town of Hunter, the Absolute Towing Huckleberry Station Storage brought a Site Plan Review for adding twenty-two relocate-able storage units to the existing twenty-five storage units. The GCPB ruled this a local decision with no county impact.
In the Town of Catskill, a Site Plan Review came for a motorcycle repair shop. The GCPB ruled that there were no county issues, but that special consideration should be given to local wetlands, the septic, and bat habitat close by.
Mr. Kroyer noted that the 239 for the proposed zoning amendments had not appeared on the GCPB meeting agenda, and said that the Town Board could still host its Public Hearing for the amendments to Jewett’s local law, but absent the 239 Referral, it would likely have to wait an additional month to vote on the law.
Agenda Item 5: Other Business: updates on Flood Advisory Committee, Scenic By-Way Committee, Supervisor, DEC Communications, Decibel Meter.
At Colgate Lake – The Supervisor has been in contact with the Sheriff’s Department. Upon his request they have agreed to have an increased presence on busy Summer Weekends at Colgate Lake this year. Last year there was an agreement that was set up by a town councilman who received a donation and paid the Sheriff’s Department with it. Hopefully that type of arrangement will not be necessary this season. A DEC directional sign for Colgate Lake has recently been stolen. The Supervisor is continuing discussions with representatives from DEC.
Flood Analysis – Mr. Kroyer and Mr. LaPierre attended the Kick Off Meeting with Mark Carabetta, Chief Engineer for SLR Consulting out of New Palz, who will do the Local Flood Analysis Survey for the Town of Jewett. Mr. LaPierre commented he did not seem to know too much about Jewett. They will hold numerous meetings. Mr. Kroyer wants them to visit the Town to see that Jewett actually has a lot of flood related issues and a great need for rebuilding capital.
There are six people on the Flood Advisory Committee – two Planning Board members – Greg Kroyer and Paul LaPierre, two Town Board members – Jim Pellitteri and Carol Muth, plus Bob Mallory, Highway Supervisor, and Carl Giangrande, CEO. There will be opportunity’s for public participation and comments during the process.
Scenic ByWay – Meeting next Thursday morning. There are some issues with funding. The idea originally presented by Michelle Yost and Peter Manning stated there would be no extra laws to the residents, and there would be no financial burden to the Town. Donna wrote the premise, and Mr. Kroyer partnered with Councilperson Quackenbush to get the project accomplished. Mr. Kroyer is hopeful that the project will continue to be funded by Greene County Soil and Water. Peter Manning continues to make revisions in the Corridor Management Plan as requested by the NY State DOT.
STR Update – There is a new web site called ShareJewett.com manned by Chris Hopstock and Elide Bell, who are part of a citizens STR Committee. Planning Board Member Barbara Schobel sat in on a meeting with them. She said their intention is to encourage STR people to be respectful of the Town and their neighbors.
Ms. Bernard said the website presents basic conflict resolution concepts, such as getting people to sit around a table and get to know each other. Mr. LaPierre said that you first find what all agree on, and then respectfully discuss what they don’t agree on.
The site has a very nice plaque with a bear and the trees for people who want to join their group to post on their property. Mr. Kroyer said he gave Chris Hopstock and Elide Bell suggestions for their website, not as a town official, but as a private citizen. Mr. Hopstock, an architect and successful STR owner, does not bother his neighbors. They posted how to take care of garbage to not attract bears, for example, and the town’s laws for STRs. Ms. Bernard and the Panning Board expressed support of their efforts.
Mr. Kroyer was pleased that the late Mr. McCrary’s efforts for the STR laws were mentioned in a newspaper article on the topic.
In a recent article, the journalist, Mike Ryan, expressed the opinion that STRs should require a Special Use Permit (SUP). Mr Kroyer stated that if that should occur the Planning Board would become extremely busy.
The discussion turned to people who rent out their main house as an STR and stay in their own Guest House or even a camping trailer on their own property. Mr. LaPierre knows of a resident who built a Guest House and then moved into the Guest House and is renting out the main house as a seasonal rental. The town wrote the law that a Guest House be intended only for temporary occupancy by family and friends.
Ms. Bernard thought the concept is like flipping the law; the owner living in the Guest House permanently is a gray issue. Mr. Kroyer said he has been taking calls from several people who want to purchase a large property and establish many small cabins as STRs. They would need a Special Use Permit for a Motel/ Resort, Mr. Kroyer thought, and require a lot more regulation including oversight from the NY State Department of Health.
Mrs. Schobel said the Copper Kettle (Eastwind Hotel and Bar) in Windham had been adding a lot of Glamping tents. Ms. Bernard noted the Board had started research on this before the pandemic. Mr. Kroyer mentioned the need to look at the usage, whether glamping tents or yurts. Mr. LaPierre anticipates many sharp people trying to find ways around Town laws; Mr. Kroyer replied Jewett town planners are pretty sharp too.
Mr. Kroyer said there is an upcoming Application for a Minor Subdivision and Sketch Plan Review for Tax Map Parcel 146.00-1-36, for a house on six and nine-tenths (6.9) acres on Route 23A near the Ukrainian Church. The parcel is owned by the Vera Gaidoch Trust, represented by Trustee Lydia Piaseckyj and Trustee Dr. Ivan Shvachuk, who would like to subdivide the land. They are currently having some trouble finding a surveyor.
Agenda Item 6: Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 9:08 p.m. with a motion by Mr. LaPierre, and seconded by Ms. Bernard, and approved unanimously.
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Agenda Item 1: Call to Order and Roll Call
Meeting called to order at 7:30 p.m.
Present: Greg Kroyer, Chair; Donna Bernard, Paul LaPierre, Barbara Schobel, and Simon Williams
Absent: Jim Franz
Agenda Item 2: Approval of the Minutes of February 4, 2021
Mr. Williams made the motion to approve the minutes as written. The motion was seconded by Mr. LaPierre and unanimously approved.
Agenda Item 3: Review of the Proposed Zoning Amendments Packet
Chair Kroyer provided a packet consisting of the Proposed Amendments and Noise Chapter (including the Planning Board’s suggested revisions), proposed methods to address problems with Short Term Rental (STR) properties, §165-42 duty of the Planning Board to recommend law proposals to the Town Board, and proof that the proposed changes are consistent with the Town’s Comprehensive Plan. He read the Proposed Amendments and Noise chapter aloud for Board review.
Mr. Williams noted a grammatical error in the heading “SECTION 2. AMENDMENT TO ADD A NEW SUBPARAGRAPHS TO §165-21.3.” The Board agreed to strike the “A” in order to leave “SUBPARAGRAPHS” in the plural.
As noted last month, the word “meet” needs to be added to “C,” so that the last sentence shall read, “Any advertising of the subject property must meet the requirements of this paragraph.”
Verifiable refractions to be posted in each STR are covered under “E. A further Notice in substantially the form set forth below shall be conspicuously posted in each Short Term Rental,” which lists:
(a) Jewett has a noise ordinance
i. 60 decibels from 7:00 AM to 9:00 PM
ii. 50 decibels from 9:00 PM to 7:00 AM
iii. No outside music after 9:00 PM
(b) Do not attract bears or raccoons. Do not feed or attract wildlife.
(c) No garbage can shall be left out overnight, unless it is protected by a commercial bear proof container.
(d) The occupancy of this property is ______. No guests or visitors allowed. [Number shall be determined by CEO.]
Mr.Kroyer noted that the numbers of 50 and 60 decibels could be changed, but that those decibel levels would be recorded from the property line. He checked it out with his own decibel meter that he has on his smart phone. Mr. LaPierre noted that many properties do not conform to the specific distances. Mr. Kroyer noted this is not an “end all and be all,” but a step forward. He said there were eighty-seven (87) people on the Town of Lexington’s Public Hearing via Zoom, and soon enough the Town Board of Jewett will hold its own Public Hearing, and can expect many attendees as well. It is a topic many people feel strongly about.
SECTION 3. VIOLATIONS of the proposal, (a.), defines the people who can determine such violations as “i. law officers, ii. the town CEO, iii. the Town Attorney or his/her designee, and iv. any other such employees and/or officials authorized by the Town Board.” Under (a) i., the Planning Board decided to change “law officers” to read “law enforcement officers.”
This section further defines violators subject to suspension or revocation of the certificate to “(b) i. 3 violations within 12 months; ii. 4 violations within 24 months; and (c) violations may also be prosecuted in the same manner as other Zoning Violations as set forth in the Town of Jewett Zoning Law.”
The subsequent pages of the handouts were the proposed Local Law #2 of 2021, where the struck-out phrases will be omitted, with the phrase also to be replaced under Chapter 105 NOISE, §105-3, Definitions, (A). The phrase reads “In addition to the above the making of sounds greater than 1) 60 decibels from 7:00 AM to 9:00 PM; 2) 50 decibels from 9:00 PM to 7:00 AM; and 3) outside music and/or yelling, hollering or hooting after 9:00 PM shall be prohibited.”
Agenda Item 4: Recommendations on Proposed Zoning Code Amendments
Mr. LaPierre had been thinking about a form that could be created for people to fill out should they have a complaint with STR properties. Mr. Kroyer said that was a good idea, and he just happened to have provided a “Proposed Methods” handout. Once the proposed “Local Law #1 of 2021 Zoning Amendments Regarding Short Term Rentals” is passed, it has been proposed for the Town to hire an individual to be on call 24/7 to respond to these calls. This individual would not act as a Law Enforcement Officer, but would simply be authorized to observe and document violations from the property line, then submit a notarized affidavit to the Town CEO.
With 3 violations within 12 months, or 4 violations within 24 months, the Town CEO would have the legal authority to revoke or suspend the Certificate of Registration for the Short Term Rental, as well as have the legal backing to deal with nuisance offenses. Should the STR owner continue to operate, the Town Attorney would then pursue every available option to rectify the situation including recurring fines, tax liens, and/or criminal charges.
The Town will mandate by policy that the rules (no parties, no guests, noise restrictions, garbage, parking, and no trespassing) be prominently stated in the advertisement and that violation of these rules will result in the immediate termination of the rental agreement. The Town will also mandate by policy that the rules shall be sent to the Renter by text or email within 3 days prior to occupancy and a response received accepting and acknowledging these rules. Failure of response would terminate the rental agreement. Mr. Kroyer said that following these mandates would result in a paper trail that could be followed in the pursuit of legal action by the Town.
Ms. Bernard said this is all part of due process and gives the town the capacity to do their job. Mr. Williams said that if the certification registration is numbered it should be displayed. Mr. Kroyer said that they were supposed to have been putting that in their ads, but they haven’t been. Mr. LaPierre said that when information from the renter comes in, it should be forwarded to the Town CEO. Mr. Kroyer liked that idea and said he would suggest it.
Ms. Bernard read the Planning Board’s responsibility listed under §165-42. Report of Planning Board: “A. In making its report on a proposed amendment to the Town Board, the Planning Board shall make an inquiry and determination. Concerning a proposed amendment to the text of the law, the Planning Board shall find: (1) Whether such change is consistent with the aims and principles embodied in the law as to the particular district concerned; (2) Which areas and establishments in the Town will be directly affected by such change and in what way they will be affected; (3) The indirect implications of such change in its effect on other regulations, and (4) Whether such proposed amendment is consistent with the aims of the Comprehensive Plan of the Town.” Mr. Kroyer clarified that the Board’s responsibility to this law is in regard to all Zoning districts within Jewett. Number (3) applies in terms of how this new law applies to the pre-existing Noise Ordinance, which has already been worked through.
Mr. Williams noticed that under §105-5 (1) of the Noise Ordinance regarding the operation of lawn tools, et cetera, the times are not consistent as operating from 9:00 AM and 7:00 AM Monday through Friday and 9:00 PM and 8:00 AM on the weekends. He thought it should all be consistent.
Mr. LaPierre expressed his concerns of LLCs owning properties strictly as rental properties. He does not object to all LLCs owning properties, but insofar as owning properties as rental businesses where the owner is not a resident: That type of business should qualify as a motel. Mr. Kroyer replied that the Town Law has definitions regarding these terms. He considered anything less than thirty days is an STR, whereas a Seasonal Rental is expected to last for a season – winter or summer, or generally longer than 30 days. The motels that are in Jewett pre-exist the Zoning law, or would be required to have a Special Use Permit (SUP). Mr. LaPierre said they are subject to state laws. Ms. Bernard said that right now, STR’s are what Seasonal Rentals used to be. People started doing AirBnBs because they could make a lot more money on it.
Chair Kroyer stated that what the Board has to do tonight is to make recommendations on the current proposals that have come back from the Town Attorney and the Town Supervisor with input from the Planning Board. Mr. Kroyer said he could justify these amendments within the Comprehensive Plan. Two strengths of the Town are quietness and cleanliness, so these laws promote both the quietude, and the cleanliness through the garbage plan that STR owners are required to create. Under “IV. Goal Statements of the Comprehensive Plan,” Goals 1: Rural and small town character is maintained, Goal 2: Jewett maintains a clean and healthy environment, Goal 6: Businesses operate in an unobtrusive manner consistent with the character and needs of Jewett, and Goal 11: Create opportunities for a younger population. This represents due diligence with the Comprehensive Plan. He said the Board is looking at these amendments tonight, which is the task that it has been given to do.
Tonight, he said, is not the night for public comments, or a public hearing. The Planning Board does hold Public Hearings for Special Use Permits and Subdivisions, but the Town Board holds the Public Hearings specifically for proposed Zoning amendments.
Chair Kroyer reported to the Planning Board the meetings he held considering all issues pertinent to this proposed Zoning amendment:
On February 15th, he met with Buck, Christine, and Elliott Spero. That meeting was held in person at the municipal building. They were in favor of passing these proposals, but want the Town to go further and make the STR law a Special Use Permit, and/or prohibit STRs from within five hundred feet (500’) of a residential dwelling. They believe also that STRs are essentially motels and do not belong in residential districts. They are hopeful of these regulations preventing irresponsible STR rentals.
On February 17th, Mr. Kroyer spoke with Chris Hopstock. Chris Hopstock owns an STR property, and supports the proposed amendments from an STR owner’s point of view. He is a member of the newly forming Short Term Rentals Coalition.
On February 18th Mr. Kroyer attended a Zoom meeting with Jim Pellitterri, Carol Muth, Barbara Schobel, Chris Hopstock, Buck and Christine Spero, and Elide Belle. They discussed the newly forming Short Term Rental Coalition of responsible owners who would offer assistance in promoting responsible behavior for STR owners. This is a work in progress and the effects remain to be seen. Several people expressed support for the proposed amendments. Elide Belle was in support of passing the proposed amendments.
On February 24th, Mr. Kroyer met with Carl Giangrande, CEO, who is also in favor of passing the proposed amendments, as he is currently lacking the enforcement tools he needs to act on the violations. Once voted into law, the listed violations would enable him to revoke or suspend the Certificates of irresponsible STR owners.
Mr. Kroyer noted that overall he is not finding anyone saying these proposals are a bad idea; just some people saying that more could be done, as the Board has seen tonight with Mr. LaPierre’s concern over LLCs owning STRs with no permanent residents. People coming together from both sides of the issue is just another step proposed to be taken, but is probably not the end of the story. The pandemic tossed a monkey wrench into the Town’s plan of implementation, and the Town is still not back on target with its goals in this direction. The matter is not over. Mr. Kroyer said he gets several calls a week from prospective land buyers who want to put numerous tiny house STRs on the properties they hope to buy. This may be indicative of what the Planning Board may face in the future.
Mr. LaPierre read movingly from the Vision Statement of the Comprehensive plan. He stated that the permitting of houses dedicated solely to STRs and not to being residences to people being part of the community works absolutely against that opening paragraph. Mr. Kroyer reminded him we are not looking at the entire picture today, but at this aspect of it. He is not certain how to respond to Paul’s concern for LLCs. The ones that are there, the owners do occupy it for some period of time during the year, he said. Mr. LaPierre recognizes that not every LLC owner have a nefarious intent, but he is strongly concerned that those places that are built or converted to be nothing more than a rental are in direct opposition to the Vision Statement of the Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. LaPierre reminded the Board that there was a situation in PA that went through three courts. Ultimately the decision went against the owner. There were twenty-seven pages of court hearing and determination, which speaks to the kind of mindset Mr. LaPierre is concerned about: Buying a property with nothing more than making an investment opportunity, which is not in the aesthetic of the town with its conservation land, natural beauty, and lack of population density.
Mr. Kroyer said the Town is making its laws stricter to discourage this. The Town is beefing up what it can, and will hire an individual to answer these complaints and fill out an affidavit. But he warned that if this becomes a SUP, there would not be enough hours in the week to meet the demand. He said it has been hard enough to get people registered, and stressed the importance to be realistic about what can be done to prevent STR owners from being everybody’s worst neighbor.
Mr. LaPierre wants things to go back to the original intent of renting a room in one’s home for a little rental income. Mr. Kroyer said this is what the situation has become, operating in our midst from about twelve years ago until now. He wants to help people who are suffering and this could potentially help the neighbor of a nuisance operator. The Board has to look at the criteria tonight. Mr. LaPierre is not disagreeing with what the Board is doing tonight, but he wants to be more proactive instead of catching up. Ms. Bernard says at least the Town of Jewett has done something to get to this point tonight on a topic that most towns are sitting on. Mrs. Schobel asked what the Town does if STR owners don’t register. Mr. Kroyer said a series of fines would ensue. They will keep getting hit with fines until they register.
Mr. Kroyer said he has heard many complaints from people who do the right thing and resented paying even last year’s minimal fee. He feels the County should have an Occupancy tax and that the towns should get that fee somehow. Some officials from other mountaintop municipalities think this should be the County’s job, and the County perhaps thinks it should be a State mandate. He said we have these proposals, which can be tweaked. This process began about two months ago with an email chain to all the Town Board members. He compared it to climbing a stairway, creating the rungs of a ladder in order to create a legal basis for dealing with the problem.
What Mr. LaPierre said has merit: These standalone businesses may present problems, and perhaps should not be in close proximity to a neighboring house. Yet verification is difficult. If eventually this becomes a SUP, then Jewett must determine how many within the town fit the criteria, and the need to perhaps create as many as eighty SUPs could prove overwhelming. Ms. Bernard suggested keeping a list of these so that the Town is forewarned of an issue it might follow. Mr. Kroyer said again that is tough to verify. Mr. LaPierre thought the Board should provide the Town Board a Memorandum for Record to keep an eye on these things. Mr. Kroyer reminded him of the need for clear lenses: Jewett is a small town with a limited bank account. Just one police car to patrol the town would create an enormous financial burden for our residents The Town needs to create a reasonable approach that can actually be sustained.
Later, the Town will go through the entire Host Compliance sheet to see who is putting the rules on their website. A lot of policy here must yet be put in place, including the individual who will be taking the complaint calls. Ms. Bernard wondered whether the Board could schedule a time to sit down in the Planning Board’s meeting for a review of this -after it is promulgated- to formally track this. Mr. Williams said he brought it up at the Town Board meeting, but that Mr. McCrary noted that it is not the job of the Planning Board to review the STR policy that it had recommended right off the bat. Ms. Bernard would prefer to have the information ahead of time to discern things are working.
Mr. Kroyer would like to put acceptance of these proposals to a vote tonight. If the motion passes, then it goes to the Town Board meeting next week, which will have to take a vote to set a Public Hearing for the April meeting. If with all the Public Hearing input, this is voted into law, and the Town Board sets the yearly fee and fines for the Noise Ordinance, they could potentially hire someone who is willing and acceptable before this summer. They will have to vote on that too. By as early as May there could be a phone number on our website for these calls. Then the renewals will go out, Mr. Giangrande can do more inspections, and hopefully by the end of this year it is all organized. If someone is a bad actor, the Town has four types of officials who can register the affidavit of complaint. Given this, Mr. Kroyer has taken everyone’s opinions, and gained the support for the proposals.
Mr. LaPierre thought the registration fee could be prorated based upon the number of bedrooms so there is a sliding scale for the fee: A base number that anyone could pay, a sliding scale based upon number of bedrooms, and thereby not everyone is penalized. Mr. Kroyer will bring this idea to the attention of the Town Supervisor.
Mr. LaPierre asked how many STRs existed at this moment. Mr. Kroyer said Host Compliance claims ninety-five, but that only about eighty are registered. Mrs. Bower, Mrs. Carl, and Mr. Kroyer worked from the tax records and managed to identify another seven. Someone suggested that the Town approach AirBnB directly for their records. New York City had fought AirBnB in Court for their listings and won, but Mr. Kroyer prefers to deal with the issue as a mountaintop community.
He asked if anyone else had anything to say specifically about these amendments under consideration tonight. Mr. LaPierre asked whether Mr. Kroyer had made a note to make a form for neighbors’ complaints to suggest to be mandated through policy, which would be part of how the recordkeeping would be administered. Mr. Kroyer answered in the affirmative.
Mr. Kroyer said he would entertain a motion to recommend to the Town Board that the Zoning Amendments titled “Local Law #1 of 2021, Zoning Amendments regarding Short Term Rentals and Local Law #2 of 2021, A Local Law Amending the Town Noise Control Law” should be adopted. The first motion was made by Mr. LaPierre, seconded by Ms. Bernard, and subjected to a Roll Call Vote: Ms. Bernard – aye; Mr. LaPierre – aye; and Mr. Williams – aye. The motion passes. Mrs. Epstein filled out the Decision Form and made six copies for Mr. Kroyer.
Agenda Item 5: GCPB report from Mr. LaPierre
There was a Boundary Lot Line Adjustment from the Town of Coxsackie referred because it was on the County Route 81 Right-of-Way (ROW). The GCPB claimed no jurisdiction.
In the Town of Catskill, the GCPB approved the Site Plan application for the Happy Clown Ice Cream and Bake Shop located on the Route 23B ROW with the recommendation to add plantings to improve the appearance of the site.
The New Baltimore Fire District brought forward an Area Variance for the installation of an oversized LED sign, which the GCPB said was a local decision.
In the Town of New Baltimore, Sanzi/Beradi requested a Use Variance for the conversion of an existing twenty-eight unit motel to a fourteen unit senior living residence for those over fifty-five years of age. The motion was approved unanimously as a local decision.
The Blackthorne Resort in the Town of Durham is seeking to add thirty new sites, two new bath houses, water lines and septic to its campground. The GCPB approved the Site Plan noting that attention to wetlands and an agricultural data statement are needed.
In the Town of Catskill, Rivertide Aikikai is seeking an Area Variance for an overhanging addition to the front of their building. GCPB voted unanimously that this is a local decision.
In the Town of Athens, the fire commissioners of the West Athens-Lime Street Fire District are proposing the construction of a new 12,750 square foot fire station with four bays and storage areas for equipment, office space, bathrooms and decontamination/shower areas, and a new septic system. The project will combine two existing facilities. The GCPB approved the measure with recommendations: work done in the County Route 28 ROW will require a County work permit, wetlands may require a federal ACOE permit, that the lighting plan utilize energy efficient LED lights, and it is recommended that green infrastructure (pervious pavement, rain gardens, and vegetated swales) be used to manage Stormwater.
In the Town of Cairo, a Site Plan Review and Special Use Permit application came for a re-subdivision of two parcels into three parcels and the installation of a battery energy storage facility is sought within the interior of the property. The GCPB determined this to be a local decision, noted that it does not review subdivisions, and stated several concerns. The Greene County Highway Department expressed concern about future access points along County Route 23B, the close proximity of a new proposed road and the Dollar General entranceway, that the proposed road easement may be too narrow for a right-hand turn lane, and the question of whether the Dollar General’s ability to access the new road would be negated by the Stormwater Management facility. The GCPB recommended the Town of Cairo familiarize itself with NYSERDA’s New York Battery Energy Storage System Guidebook for Local Governments. Further questions were raised concerning safety protocols and emergency response, visual screening, security and lighting, local permitting and inspection processes, a decommissioning plan, wetland and stream impacts, an SWAPP, and the need for a rare breed of bats to access part of the site for foraging, breeding, and overwintering. Creating a pollinator garden was also suggested.
Agenda Item 6: Other Business
Mr. Kroyer said that the Scenic Byway project is currently experiencing financial shortfalls.. Peter Manning needs to get another grant to continue his efforts to complete the project.
The Flood Advisory Committee is to have it’s first meeting at the Jewett Municipal Building. The flood analysis survey will occur this year and is fully funded by Greene County Soil and Water and approved by the Town Board.
Mr. Williams said that he had received an email from a resident who wanted to sell land to the DEP. The DEP had told him that they were not interested because the land is in an extended designated hamlet district. The resident had received a letter from the Jewett TB saying that Resolution Number 7 from 2011 included his land in an extended hamlet. The question is, can he sell to the DEP? The town has the option of rescinding or affirming this decision every five years, and the Town has not voted on it. Mr. Kroyer said that he would obtain this information.
Mr. Kroyer said he would entertain a motion to adjourn the meeting. At 9:40 p.m. Ms. Bernard motioned to adjourn, Mr. LaPierre seconded the motion, and it carried unanimously.
________________________________, Secretary
________________________________, Chair
From Paul LaPierre, member of Town of Jewett Planning Board 4 Mar 2021
To: Town of Jewett Planning Board
SELECTED EXCERPTS FROM JEWETT TOWN BOARD MEETINGS RE. SHORT TERM RENTALS.
ALL CAPS are my comments or responses to emboldened items.
November 17, 2020: Minutes of October 14, 2020
The board discussed the code enforcement officer’s report. The CEO said he sent a letter out to the house on 23C next to the Sperro residence, regarding their wedding event that they were not permitted to have. Councilman Quackenbush asked why their license was not suspended.
The CEO answered that the letter was a forewarning and that the next verifiable infraction may warrant pulling their certificate. He said he needs all complaints in writing.
The CEO also reported that he ordered a cease and assist on wedding events for the house on Round Hill Road and has been working with the owner to get him into compliance.
Mr. Giangrande also gave an update regarding the trailer on 296 and said he has had several conversations to address the various issues, which renders various results. He sent the owner a letter but the owner has not responded. He will send a second letter out warning of fines.
Christine Spero was given the floor to mention the incidents pertaining to the STR next door to them. Mrs. Spero said, “I have gone out to all the residents of the town of Jewett and asked them to sign a petition banning STR’s. I have over 200 signatures to date. I am presenting this to the town so that the board can see how many people are disturbed by STR’s and don’t want them.”
They asked the board what will be done. Carl Giangrande, CEO said he needs more verifiable infractions. The Sperro’s said they don’t understand, they have been doing everything the town has been asking them, for example keeping a paper trail of incidents and calling the police as needed, they asked Carl, CEO, isn’t that good enough and Carl said no, he needs more concrete evidence. Councilman Quackenbush will put together in writing the course of events that took place when he had gone to the property next door to them during the illegal wedding.
PERHAPS THE TOWN COULD DEVELOP AND MAKE AVAILABLE A STANDARD FORM THAT WOULD IDENTIFY AND DESCRIBE HOW TO RECORD VIOLATIONS SO THAT THE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WOULD HAVE A BASIS FOR ACTION. A COPY COULD BE FORWARDED TO THE STR OWNER AS WELL. ADDITIONALLY A COPY OF OUR NOISE CONTROL LAW COULD BE MADE AVAILABLE TO EACH OF THE APPROPRIATE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.
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Courtesy of the floor was given to the public to speak about short term rentals:
Nathan Miles took the floor and said, “I am a 7th generation resident of Jewett. Christine Sperro came to my house and asked me to sign a petition against STR’s. I am a caretaker of STR’s and I would like to encourage peace between the two parties. STR’s are not new, just a new way. If STR’s are banned, that would be unconstitutional. Mrs. Sperro’s petition wants to ban STR’s and some people who signed it, did not realize that. I am asking the town not to punish STR owners that follow the rules and are responsible.”
THEN THE RESPONSIBLE STR OWNERS CAN HELP BY SUPPORTING THE TOWN REQUIREMENT FOR A FEE-BASED REGISTRATION THAT WILL FUND THE HIRING OF AN ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND THE LEVYING OF APPROPRIATE FINES AND/OR SUSPENSION FOR NON-COMPLIANT STR OWNERS. THE REGISTRATION FEES, EVEN AT SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS PER YEAR WILL BE READILY RECOUPED, BASED ON THE RENTAL FEES SHOWN ON THE STR WEBSITES, AND SHOULD BE SEEN AS PART OF THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS.
Leonard Seastone said, “I don’t care about past rentals, we have a problem now. New people are infringing on our area. The board passes laws and ordinances that are not enforceable.
No one is afraid of zoning. I would like the board to press the police. Look at what Lexington is doing.”
A&K said, “Well if you don’t like all the people coming here, then don’t live in a resort community.”
NOT ONLY ARROGANT BUT IGNORANT. RATHER, IF SOME WHO COME HERE CHOOSE NOT TO RESPECT THE COMMUNITY WHOSE AMENITIES THEY HAVE COME TO ENJOY, LET THEM GO ELSEWHERE.
Jason Pontillo said, “I used to be a part time resident, I am now full time. When Mrs. Sperro came to my house regarding the petition, I signed it but felt violated. She right away demanded to know if I was a home owner etc. We have a right to STR’s but I felt I had no choice but to sign her petition and I signed the lesser of the two instead of banning it all together. Please lets try to work together.”
Chris Hopstock said, “I own a home on Ford Hill Rd. that I rent out occasionally as an STR.
I make sure they know all the rules regarding noise, littering etc. For the last two and a half years our renters have been very good. Why punish the good owners? Also, STR’s are very good for the town as they increase property values.”
INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES ARE IMPORTANT IF YOUR PRIMARY INTEREST IS IN SELLING—IT’S NOT RELEVANT TO MANY WHO SEE THEIR PROPERTY AND HOUSE AS A HOME IRRESPECTIVE OF ITS MARKET VALUE. SEE DODSON COMMENT BELOW.
John Zarilla said, “In Lexington, they are adding water testing to their STR law. I have a Culligan system and our water is very good. Is this something Jewett will be looking to add onto their STR law?” Councilman Quackenbush said, “We have not discussed water testing but, it’s not very expensive to get done. I think Lexington is requiring owners of STR’s to get a sample test of their water either every 6 months or quarterly, it can be done in Hunter and its only $35 a test.”
Water Dodson said, “I would like to address the previous comment that was made saying that if we don’t like all the extra people coming up here then we shouldn’t live in a resort town. This offends me. I have lived here for over 15 years, this is my home. That comment paints the attitude of the 2nd home owner. Yes, this is resort town but 1st this is our home. Comments like those are what got us to the degree of this level. This is our home; please respect us like you respect your home”.
Elide Bell said, “I live here full time and I don’t disagree with STR’s. There is a way to come together. There should be a consensus with the general information that you must hang.”
Supervisor Pellitteri said, “Yes, we do this, we require all STR owners to hang town law information in their homes for their renters to see our laws.”
Elide Bell said, “How does the town know who rents?”
Supervisor Pellitteri said, “We have been working on this for a year, trying to work out all the details. We looked at STR law models from all over the country before we made a decision as how to appropriately regulate STR’s within Jewett. We hired a company that tracks STR rentals. We know who is renting. We began by making the law that STR’s need to register. We are now working on the fine schedule for those who do not register and for those whose renters don’t follow town laws. It has not been any easy process but whether you are in favor or not in favor, if we didn’t acknowledge STR’s they would go underground. This way they are regulated and we are at ground zero.”
Jake Johnson said, “I am a future resident of Jewett, a realtor and litigator in NYC. If the town removes an owner’s certificate there will be a legal battle. Property values will drop if you don’t allow STR’s. I feel that STR’s in Jewett is not a problem. It’s your local law enforcement that is the problem.”
IF STR’S WERE NOT A PROBLEM WE WOULD NOT NEED LAW ENFORCEMENT TO DEAL WITH THEM. WE DON’T NEED TO BE HELD HOSTAGE TO THE POSSIBILITY OF A LAWSUIT NOR TO THE DESIRE FOR RISING PROPERTY VALUES TO SATISFY REALTORS.
Rebecca Yarger said, “I just wanted to state that I have been running STR’s since 2016 and I have had fantastic guests. I agree with Chris and Nathan that the owners would like to cooperate with the town and be good neighbors.”
NO DOUBT TRUE FOR THE MAJORITY OF STR OWNERS, BUT THERE ARE SOME FOR WHOM THE STR FERVOR IS A MAJOR INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY, NOT A SUPPLEMENTAL INCOME—WITNESS THE RESIDENCES THAT OPERATE SOLEY AS STR VENUES.OR AS LLCs WITH ABSENTEE OWNERS.
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Councilman Quackenbush said, “I agree with Rebecca and Chris. We have a lot of great owners out there but we have to deal with the bad eggs. We don’t really know the both of you and that’s a good thing”.
Councilwoman Romito said, “We need all the good and the bad to figure out a solution”.
December 15, 2020: Minutes of November 10, 2020
Christine Spero was given the floor to mention the incidents pertaining to the STR next door to them. Mrs. Spero asked the board what will be done as she does not want to spend the rest of her life calling the police every weekend. She also reiterated the fact that she has collected over 200 signatures for her petition to stop STR’s or to at least make a law saying that there has to be a 500’ minimum distance between an STR and a residence.
Supervisor Pellitteri said that the town is trying their best to work this out saying, “We don’t have the tools right now. We are getting the tools”.
COMMENTARY ON EXISTING AND PROPOSED SHORT TERM RENTAL GOVERNANCE
Added 9 Mar 2021
I would ask the Jewett Town Board to keep the following Statement of Purpose from Chapter 165 Zoning of theJewett Code uppermost in its formulation of regulations regarding the registration and oversight of Short Term Rental properties:
The Purpose of this chapter is to promote the health, safety, morals, and general welfare of the community. In accordance with the Town’s Comprehensive Plan, this chapter is designed to secure safety from fire, flood, panic and other dangers; to promote health and general welfare; to provide adequate light and air; to prevent crowding the land and undue concentration of population; to facilitate transportation, water, sewage, schools, parks and other public services; to assure privacy for residents and freedom from nuisance and things harmful to the senses. (Italics added)
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Additional suggestions:
Re. Local Law #1 of 2021
SECTION 2. Addition to Town Code Chapter 165-21.3
E. a. An easily understandable and relatable equivalent example should be provided for each
numerical decibel value cited, per below:
Normal conversation, Conversation in restaurant, office, background music, Refrigerator, Air conditioning unit at 100 ft
60 db Fairly quiet
Quiet suburb, conversation at home. Large electrical transformers at 100 ft
50db
Source: SOURCES: Temple University Department of Civil/Environmental Engineering (www.temple.edu/departments/CETP/environ10.html), and Federal Agency Review of Selected Airport Noise Analysis Issues, Federal Interagency Committee on Noise (August 1992).
b. Do not feed nor attract wildlife, especially bear and raccoons.
Re. Local Law #2 of 2021
SECTION 2. Wherever numerical decibel values are cited, an easily understandable and relatable
equivalent example should be provide, as above.
Added: April 04, 2021
Agenda Item 1: Call to Order and Roll Call
Meeting called to order at 7:30 p.m.
Present: Greg Kroyer, Chair; Paul LaPierre, Barbara Schobel, and Simon Williams
Absent: Donna Bernard, and Jim Franz
Agenda Item 2: Approval of the Minutes of November 5, 2020
Mr. Williams made the motion to approve the minutes as written. The motion was seconded by Mr. LaPierre and approved unanimously.
Agenda Item 3: Welcome to New Planning Board Members: Jim Franz and Barbara Schobel
Ms. Schobel was in attendance, but Mr. Franz was not. The Planning Board welcomed her to her new position as Planning Board alternate. Mr. Franz will be welcomed next month.
Agenda Item 4: Review of Proposed Zoning Code Amendments
Mr. Kroyer had provided copies of a letter from the Supervisor, the current Short Term Rental (STR) law with its Proposed Amendments, and the current Noise Control law with its Proposed Amendments. The emailed letter from Mr. Pellitteri requested that the Planning Board review the STR material and make its recommendations to the Town Board, who intend to discuss the proposals at its next meeting. Town Attorney Tal Rappleyea wrote the proposals for the Town of Jewett.
The amendment to the Short Term Rental (STR) law titled “Town of Jewett Local Law #1 of 2021 Zoning Amendments regarding Short Term Rentals” would add the following (in part) to the §165-21.3 from “Town of Jewett Local Law #2 of 2019 Zoning Amendments regarding Short Term Rentals”:
“C. Occupancy of each Short Term Rental shall be determined at the time of registration. The occupancy thus determined, shall be the maximum number of people allowed on the property. No guests or visitors shall be allowed. Any advertising of the subject property must [meet] the requirements of this paragraph.
D. Each Short Term Rental shall have an established, written garbage disposal plan including the name, address and other contact information for the disposal company. The plan shall be conspicuously posted within the rental unit and filed with the Town CEO.
E. A further Notice in substantially the form set forth below shall be conspicuously posted in each Short Term Rental:
a. Jewett has a noise ordinance.
i. 60 decibels from 7:00 AM to 9:00 PM
ii. 50 decibels from 9:00 PM to 7:00 AM
iii. No outside music after 9:00 PM
b. Do not attract bears or raccoons.
c. No garbage shall be left out overnight unless it is protected by a commercial bear proof container
d. The occupancy of this property is _____________. No guests or visitors allowed.
SECTION 3 VIOLATIONS
a. Violations of this Article may result in the suspension or revocation of the certificate. Such violations shall be determined by affidavit of any of the following:
i. Law officers
ii. The town CEO
iii. The Town Attorney or his/her designee
iv. Any other such employees and/or officials authorized by the Town Board
b. Any STR rental with violations surpassing the following schedule will be subject to suspension or revocation
i. 3 violations within 12 months
ii. 4 violations within 24 months
b. Violations may also be prosecuted in the same manner as other Zoning Violations as set forth in the Town of Jewett Zoning Law.”
The above information, Mr. Kroyer noted, is necessary to legally bring action against violators of the STR law.
Because the above is a proposed addition to the Short Term Rental (STR) law, it became needful also to make a proposed addition to the current Noise Ordinance law. The following (in part) is proposed:
“SECTION 1. ZONING AND TOWN CODE AMENDMENTS
The Town Board of the Town of Jewett has determined that it is necessary and appropriate to make certain amendments to the Town Code Chapter 105 Noise, in order to keep such laws updated and relevant to the changing community. The amendments set forth below are referenced in accordance with numbering system currently in effect in the Town Code Book adopted as Local Law #6 of 2010 on July 14, 2010.
SECTION 2. AMENDMENT TO ADD NEW SUBPARAGRAPHS TO §105-5 SPECIFIC NOISE PROHIBITIONS AND RELATED EXCEMPTIONS
The following shall be added to the end of §§105-5.A. and B.
In addition to the above, the making of sounds greater than 1) 60 decibels from 7:00 AM to 9:00 PM; 2) 50 decibels from 9:00 PM to 7:00 AM; and 3) outside music and/or yelling, hollering or hooting after 9:00 PM, shall be prohibited.”
Mr. Kroyer said that the page labeled “Proposed Amendments” is the main body of the proposal. Item “C” would take away the ability for the STR renters to have a large party by limiting the number of renters to the maximum number allowed on the property and limiting advertising to meet the requirements of the law. Mr. Williams noted that the word “meet” was missing from this item.
Mr. Kroyer said that item “D” presented the requirement for a garbage disposal plan and passed around a reference copy for the Board to look at, which would be posted in the home as stipulated.
Item “E” adds a Noise Notice, which must be posted in the home. Decibel levels are provided as an attempt in order to make this enforceable. Mr. Kroyer said the Town Board is unsure on how enforcement would be carried out. Some envision Noise Police patrolling all weekend. Others wants to consider hiring someone on a per diem basis to record incidents of decibel violation and would create a record of that, which could be used to enforce the laws. Also the State Police and Greene County Sheriffs already have jurisdiction in the town.
Mrs. Strobel said that they had an incident where they did have to call the police this summer, they were very good, and said that she could request a copy of the written report in case they wanted to press charges. She said the police came twice and spoke to the renters about being quieter. She said the Noise Ordinance of the town had been useful to them.
The Town Board is occupied creating enforceable laws and discussing a manner of successful enforcement. A year ago the Boards had discussed that STRs should fund themselves, including the enforcement. Mr. Kroyer talked to many folks this past year. The STR owners who are good neighbors resent having to pay for the STRs who are bad neighbors. Just who can enforce the law is present in the current Noise Ordinance, which reads, under §105-9, “B. Enforcement. The noise control requirements established by the chapter shall be administered and enforced by a law enforcement agency that has jurisdiction in the Town of Jewett, the Town Attorney or his/her designees and any other such employees and/or officials authorized by the Town Board.” Mr. Kroyer said that an interested person could be designated by the Town Board to just go and record instances of elevated decibels.
This person could receive a call regarding an infraction, go to the property, record the decibel level, write a report and give it to the CEO, whom after three documented infractions could pull the person’s right to have the Certificate of STR. Mr. Kroyer would prefer not to burden the taxpayers with someone policing the STR properties.
The Supervisor has already spoken to the local police departments, but none of them are interested in taking on patrolling STR properties. Mr. Kroyer said that the Town Board has been discussing charging as much as $500 for the Certificate for one of these rentals. This does not seem reasonable to the Planning Board, as it would be a real punishment to the STR owners who are good neighbors. Mrs. Strobel said that if there are only a handful of disruptive STR properties, the Town should be able to set up on its own someone to look into the problems. Mr. Kroyer thinks the Town should set up one person in real time to just document the noise level. The Town should not assume the liability of law enforcement agencies, there is just too much that can go wrong with such a scenario.
Mr. Kroyer said Mr. Rappleyea had wanted to add the new decibel list under § A and B. Mr. Kroyer thinks they should delete item A completely and substitute this new proposal in that position. Mr. LaPierre suggested providing samples of the decibel levels on the page so that renters would have a guideline to know how loud they were.
Mr. Kroyer said that since Mr. LaPierre was on the Town Board at the initial passing of the Noise Ordinance, it has never been prosecuted in the Town. How these issues are enforced depends on who comes to the call. Mr. Kroyer said that society cannot be fixed, and we need to be reasonable in how any situation is treated. These proposals will help Mr. Giangrande do his job. He needs the laws to document violations that can be enforced. Mr. Williams asked whether the police agencies have been asked for written documentation when they have gone out on calls for these problems.
Mr. Kroyer said more gets written into this law, but Jewett can’t even enforce what was previously written. If we insist that a property be owner occupied, how could that be enforced? Mr. LaPierre said Jewett has been in the vanguard of initiating laws and actions that are important to maintaining a better community. Mrs. Strobel asked if the Certificate was taken away and they still rented the property out, then what? Mr. Kroyer said that there would be records of violations, then court dates, and then fines, which can be placed on the tax bill. But he said, these things take time and effort.
Mr. LaPierre said he wanted to request that any issue of disturbing the peace be copied to the Town. The point is that excessive noise gets documented. Mr. Williams pointed out that people who are exposed to excessive noise overtime get worn down and they have to do something about it. Mr. Kroyer said that the proposed amendments are to give Mr. Giangrande the teeth to be able to enforce the laws.
Mr. Kroyer wondered if the Board wanted to move forward with this. He wondered how that piece on the decibels should be included into the Noise Ordinance: whether to delete the old language and slip it into the pocket of “A” or added to the end of “B” as Mr. Rappleyea suggests. Mrs. Strobel thought that “A” should be kept and the decibel statement added to the end. A time is written inconsistently. Mr. Williams said the more material that is provided, the worse the situation becomes, because it can be interpreted in a variety of ways. He prefers direct language. He is uncomfortable with this entire thing right now, because it is just the tip of a huge issue. Mr. LaPierre said we might as well try to get it right now, adjusting for new information. The issue is that the STR law has not been enforceable because the current law lacks teeth. Mr. Kroyer said that Mrs. Carl and Supervisor Pellitteri are doing the work of tracking down those who did not register. Mr. Kroyer said law would never be perfect, because people often do as they please.
Certain wording needs more clarity. Mr. LaPierre said that most of these people from downstate would not understand that statement not to feed bears and raccoons – there should be instead wording not to feed the wildlife. The existing statement is too vague. Make the statement broader: it is illegal to feed wildlife based upon NYSDEC law. Specify what attracts bears and raccoons. The statement on hooting and hollering seems also ridiculous. The Board agrees to send it back for better defining. Mr. LaPierre noted that as these things get worked out, word will get out, and people become more compliant.
The Planning Board chose not to vote on the proposed amendments tonight, as there are still things that need work.
Agenda Item 5: GCPB report from Mr. LaPierre
Mr. LaPierre brought the news from the November 17, 2020 and January 20, 2021 Minutes of the Greene County Planning Board. He said Mrs. Cindy LaPierre has been appointed for another three-year stint on the Greene County Planning Board.
From the November 17, 2020 minutes, the Town of Catskill received an Area Variance for the replacement of an existing mobile home on a parcel with a second single family dwelling on a Route 32 right of way. The GCPB stated there was no county impact, and this was a local decision.
In the Town of Catskill, there was an Area Variance for the replacement of an existing mobile home on a parcel with a fourth family dwelling located in Palenville. The GCPB decided that there was no area impact, and this was a local decision.
In the Town of Catskill, there was an Area Variance for an existing porch for which the occupant was denied a certificate of occupancy because no building permit had been obtained for the porch. The GCPB decided there was no local impact and this was a local decision.
The Village of Catskill referred the “Adoption of Zoning Law Revisions regarding Site Plan Review, Enforcement, Design Standards, Short Term Rentals, Dumpsters and Refuse, Dimensions, Uses, Definitions, Interpretations of Districts” to the GCPB for the Amendment of the Zoning Law and Map. The village plans a Comprehensive Plan, which the Zoning laws and local regulations should complement. The GCPB recommended the Village maintain a digital file of its Zoning Map on its web site. Items on its Use Table need clarification: the Shipping Containers and Storage Tents; Municipal parks, playgrounds and beaches; and text requiring inclusion on the Use Table. The amendment was approved with modification of the zoning map.
In the Town of Catskill there was a Site Plan Review for a One-Chair Salon on the Route 23A right of way. It was decided that there is no county impact and this is a local decision.
The Town/Village of Athens brought forward its adoption of a Comprehensive Plan to update its 2007 version. The GCPB suggested that Athens find ways to work with the Greene County Economic Development and Tourism and the Great Northern Catskills Tourism; it questioned whether Athens has a Conservation Advisory Council (CAC), and if so, this should be clarified throughout the document; that the document identify DEC online mapping resources within the document, as well as the Agricultural District 124 and the County Right to Farm Law; and further that in promoting the training of elected and appointed officials Athens work with trainings already available through the GCPB.
From the January 20, 2021 meeting of the GCPB, there was a Boundary Lot Line adjustment from the Town of Coxsackie on the County Route 81 right of way. The GCPB said it had no jurisdiction.
In the Town of Catskill there was a Site Plan Review for the development of an ice cream shop and bakery called the Happy Clown on Route 23. The GCPB staff approved this.
From New Baltimore Fire District came an application for the installation of a new four by six foot double-sided LED sign. The GCPB decided this had no county impact and would be a local decision.
Agenda Item 6: Other Business
Mr. Kroyer provided an update on the situation with Mr. Ken Sauer. Apparently his surveyor did not get the plats back to him on time, and the deadline had expired. Mr. Kroyer signed and dated new plats for Mr. Sauer, who successfully filed them at the county level.
Mrs. Epstein passed around an Excel sheet to update the contact information for the Planning Board membership. She will need to get Mr. Franz’s contact updates next month.
Mr. Kroyer said he would entertain a motion to adjourn the meeting. At 9:40 p.m. Mr. LaPierre motioned to adjourn, Mr. Williams seconded the motion, and it carried unanimously.
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